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Friday, October 19, 2012
AP. "Love is a Fallacy"
Comment on the rhetorical strategies Shulman uses in this story/essay. Also add your reaction to the reading. Find a "real-life" example of someone using a fallacy and include a link to the fallacy use and explain the type used: Dicto Simpliciter, Hasty Generalization, Post Hoc, Contradictory Premises, Ad Misericordiam, False Analogy, Hypothesis Contrary to Fact, and/or Poisoning the Well.
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Shulman uses imagery throughout his passage. He describe what the raccoon coat looks and smells like. He also helps us picture what the characters in the passage look like.
ReplyDeleteI thought the ending to the passage was pretty funny, I liked it. The main character seemed annoying and obsessive to me.
Ad Misericordiam is used in this political ad. The candidate is attacking the other candidate personally.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU7fhIO7DG0&feature=player_embedded
The main rhetorical strategy used in Shulman's passage was irony. Trying to change Polly into something that she was not came back to bite him in the end. He also uses imagery to describe the characters' reactions and facial expressions to all that happened.
ReplyDeleteThe ending of the passage was very entertaining and I enjoyed it.
This is an example of poisoning the well. It is unfair to tell someone not to listen to another because they are a liar before they have even stated anything.
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/poisoning-the-well.html
- Aaron Love
In Love is a Fallacy,the main rhetorical strategies used were imagery and irony.Everything written was descriptive and detailed.The story also had an unexpected ending. The irony in the ending is that the thing he tried to teach her to mold her into what he expected her to be were the things that she used against him in the end.
ReplyDeleteThe ending was funny, She played his face HARD!!!
This is an example of a Red Herring Fallacy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exdK7Lirngg
Shulman uses characterization, similes, and irony throughout his story. He was really skilled at describing the characters. I thought the passage was entertaining and ironic.
ReplyDeleteHere is an example of poisoning the well:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-campaign19mar19-speech,0,3568071.story
Reaction to this speech would be that those not persuaded by it are racist or unreasonable.
Max Shulman uses imagery, alliteration, irony, and hyperbole throughout "Love is a Fallacy." He uses imagery when describing Polly and the raccoon coat, alliteration enables him to reinforce meaning, and hyperbole helps him to be repetitive in a humorous manner.
ReplyDeleteThe ending of the passage is when irony becomes apparent. I found it amusing that Polly eventually rejected him after all he went through to make her "suitable" for him.
This is an example of a hasty generalization fallacy. It is illogical to say if a group has a certain quality, then each member of that group possesses that quality as well.
http://webspace.ship.edu/cgboer/fallacies.html
-Ana Mitchell
Shulman uses various rhetorical strategies such as inverted syntax, chiasmus, and imagery. His use of inverted syntax appears when he is describing Polly ("graceful, she was"). He uses chiasmus in the same manner. Imagery is a play a main role in his writing also. When the speaker describes Petey to a waif looking into a bakery window, he is using imagery by painting a mental picture in the reader's mind.
ReplyDeleteI thought this reading was extremely ironic. The fact that the speaker smartened Polly up to his standards, and then she turned him down using his own tactics was very amusing.
A real life example of a hasty generalization is present in this example. Our preconceived thoughts play into the image but in fact, our prejudices are proven wrong.
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Shulman uses several different rhetorical strategies in his essay. In the first paragraph he establishes ethos by describing himself (even if he does sound conceded). When Shulman says “Beautiful she was” he is using inverted syntax. Then in the quote “What’s Polly to me, or me to Polly” he is using chiasmus. Throughout the whole essay Shulman uses imagery an example is when he states” with the expression of a waif at a bakery window.” When Shulman takes Polly to the “Knoll” to talk about logic he is using situational irony because it is ironic that they are going to a make out place to talk about logic.
ReplyDeleteI liked this story because it had a funny and unexpected ending. While I was reading I started to hate the main character so I was glad that his “plan” blew up in his face in the end.
My “real-life” example of someone using a fallacy is when Kanye West went on stage during the VMAs and said “Beyonce had one of the best videos of all time.” I think that this is Hasty Generalization because while her video was really good Kanye could not have possibly seen every video ever made so who is he to say that it is one of the best videos of all time. I also think that this could be called Poisoning the Well also because by saying this he was totally dissing Taylor Swift’s video.
Source:
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1621389/kanye-west-crashes-vma-stage-during-taylor-swifts-award-speech.jhtml
PS: Thank you for posting that picture of the raccoon coat.
:)
Three examples of rhetorical strategies that Shulman used are imagery, chiasmus, and irony. Imagery was used when describing the on Petey’s face when gazing at the raccoon coat, chiasmus was used when Shulman used the statement “What’s Polly to me, or me to Polly?” And finally, the whole ending of the piece was irony; you never would have expected Polly to end up Petey. It really shows you can’t shape someone into who you want them to be, you either take them as who they are and love them unconditionally, flaws and all or not at all.
ReplyDeleteI really enjoyed reading “Love is a Fallacy.” It related a lot to teenagers and even adults in today’s society. I say this because throughout generations people have been attracted to people not for their personality but for their processions.
An example of Ad Homeniem:
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Max Shulman uses many rhetorical strategies in the passage, “Love is a Fallacy.” A prime example is his extensive use of imagery. He describes the raccoon coat very clearly by saying they are unsanitary, they shed, and they smell bad. “Don’t listen to him, he’s a scoundrel.”(Example of poisoning the well) They are saying that he is a scoundrel even before giving them the chance to listen to him.
ReplyDelete-Ellizon Torres
Link:
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/poisoning-the-well.html
Shulman masterfully mixed the use of alliteration, imagery, and inverted syntax to hold the "Love is a Fallacy" passage.
ReplyDeleteOftentimes, he would use short alliterations, which lead to an overall better-flowing sentence. He would use ones such as "acute and astute."
Plenty of imagery is used throughout the story, a valid example of such could be "he cried, clutching the greasy pelt to him. Then a canny look came into his eyes." Shulman really tells this story via dialogue, and as such the most vivid descriptions can be found there.
Inverted syntax can be found everywhere, anyone should be able to find it (Hasty Generalization/Dicto Simpliciter). Such examples are though, without fallacy, more plentiful than the previous two. "Gracious she was," "Intelligent she was not," and "...said I," are all examples of the syntax Shulman inverted to set his passage apart.
A real-life example of Dicto Simpliciter is the controversy of whether or not women should be allowed to be in armed military units. "Women are on average not as strong as men & less able to carry a gun. Therefore women can't pull their weight in a military unit." I am not wanted to start a debate, I was just looking for a real example, please keep in mind. The quote I used does not necessarily represent my views and opinions.
Source: http://www.chacha.com/question/what-is-an-example-of-a-dicto-simpliciter
One of the literary devices Shulman uses in "Love is a Fallacy" is analogy. Polly is a human , and Shulman compares her to an object that can be passed around like a plate, or like an object that can be shared.
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Paperclips can make something beautiful. Hasty Generalization.
-Jennifer Orellana
In Shulman's Love is A Fallacy he uses imagery as the main rhetorical device. He said that Petey looked like a raccoon and was stupid like him. Then he used imagery to show what other characters looked like in a since.
ReplyDeleteI thought that the whole story was very funny and ironic. I was "rolling" throughout the passage because of the way the Shulman wrote and described the events and characters.
A real life example of Love is A Fallacy would be a married couple getting divorced because one of them is cheating on another. At the beginning of the marriage they both say that they love each and will forever, then one betrays the other and finds a new lover. This is an example of hasty generalization i guess because it makes the spouse that was cheated on realize that the marriage is ending and their partner doesn't love them anymore.
-Garrett Wilson
Max Shulman uses inverted syntax, chiasmus, and irony in "Love is a Fallacy." He uses inverted syntax in the statement "Gracious she was", and chiasmus "What's Polly to me, or me to Polly?". Shulman uses irony in the whole last section of " Love is a Fallacy."
ReplyDeleteI thought "Love is a Fallacy" was funny,I liked the irony at the end.
link: http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/poisoning-the-well.html
An example of poisoning the well is:"Don't listen to him, he's a scoundrel."
DeleteThe author of "Love is a Fallacy" included many rhetorical devices in his writing. He started with appeal to ethos, pathos, and logos,imagery, inverted syntax, alliteration, situational irony, metaphors, and hyperboles."Delish dinner," "marvy movie," and "heavy heart" are all examples of alliteration used on the fourth page. Imagery is used on the third page when Petey fist tries on the raccoon coat. The narrator described his expression as the, "expression of a waif at a bakery window."
ReplyDeleteI thought this passage was humorous in a way and very ironic. The narrator was so sure Polly would pick him that he did not consider how Polly's mind worked. Even though he tried to teach her logical thinking she still wanted Petey because he was part of the "cool" crowd.
A real life example of poisoning the well can be the presidential debates. Each candidate attacks the other before they address the problem at hand or answer the question they are asked. So people watching believe that Mitt Romney could be a liar just because Barack Obama has said it before Romney could speak or defend himself. This can be considered unfair and could sway the way the viewers feel.
In Shulmans passage he uses the rhetorical strategies of imagery and irony. Imagery is used to describe the characters and their reactions. Also to how and what the racoon coat meant and what it was. Irony is used in this passage because he tried to make Polly change into someone she wasnt and make her like him.
ReplyDeleteOverall I liked this passage. It was fun to read, very ironic and many turn around points, and was very hilarious.
A real life example of Love is a Fallacy would be any military ads. They said to join the military to achieve greatness and to be who you are as a better person. This is an example of hasty generalization because they try to make you join the military hiding the fact on how dangerous it is and you are risking your life.
http://online.santarosa.edu/presentation/page/?30880
-Tyler Farley
Imagery, great diction, and similies are he rhetorical strategies that Max Shulman use to identify his purpose. His ideas were easily understood to the audience by the way he chooses and arranges words, diction. He uses similies such as "dumb as an ox," to describe the people around him and show how arrogant he was.
ReplyDeleteWhen Max was turned down by Polly I laughed soooooooooooooo hard! It was hilarious. I think Polly was just acting dumb. But Max's friend Petey was a back stabber!
A good example for this will be when Tiger Wood cheated on his wife. He's a back stabber to his wife such as Petey.
Max Shulman used the rhetorical device of imagery to vividly paint a picture in your mind. A great example of imagery is when Shulman describes how disgusting a racoon coat is. Shulman says that the raccoon coat smells bad and sheds.
ReplyDeleteI really enjoyed this passage i thought it was knowlegdable and funny. It also shows a great point that love can be misleading.
An example of Poisoning the Well: He's a loser so don't go out with him. In Poisoning the Well, you are saying bad things about someone before they get a chance to prove themselves.
-AJ Giles
Shulman, the author of “Love is a Fallacy”, uses chiasmus, irony, alliteration, and inverted syntax. Chiasmus is used when he says, “What’s Polly to me, or me to Polly?” The end is pretty much all irony when Polly works against him. Alliteration is used in Polly’s dialogue when she makes comments such as “Marvie Movie” and “Delish Dinner”. Inverted Syntax is a rhetorical strategy used when Shulman uses phrases like, “Beautiful she was”.
ReplyDeleteI really enjoyed “Love is a Fallacy.” It was humorous yet I learned a lot. Fallacies are very entertaining I thought it was very clever how Polly used him and then rejected him.
This is an example of Poisoning the Well:
The line about the councilman shows “Poisoning the Well” because it is giving the councilman a bad reputation that may or may not be true. It is bashing him.
http://grammar.about.com/od/pq/g/poisoningwellterm.htm
Shulman uses many rhetorical devices to write his passage "Love is a Fallacy." Two rhetorical devices that he uses in the passage are imagery and chiamus. Shulman uses imagery when he is describing the racoon coat and Polly. He uses chiamus when he says "What's Polly to me, or me to Polly?"
ReplyDeleteI liked "Love is a Fallacy", i thought it was funny and that Max got what he deserved at the end.
The Republicans pass a new tax reform law that benefits Americans shortly thereafter the economy takes a nose dive. The Democrats claim that the tax reform caused th econmic woes and they push to get rid of it. - Post Hoc
The Democrats blame the Republicans for the economy becoming bad.
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/post-hoc.html
Shulman uses imagery and irony throughout "Love is a Fallacy." He uses imagery to describe the raccoon coat. You really see irony at the end of the story when Polly choses Petey over the speaker because he has a raccoon coat.
ReplyDeleteI thought it was ironic and funny that Polly chose Petey over the speaker after all he had done to try to make her smarter. If the speaker would have kept the raccoon coat, he could have had Polly all along.
This is an example of a Dicto Simpliciter because it's drawing a conclusion that sense penguins are black and white and old tv shows are black and white, that penguins are old tv shows.
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Shulman uses many rhetorical analysisin "Love is a Fallacy." Shulman uses inverted syntax, imagery, alliteration, red herring and irony. "expression of a waif at a bakery window," is some funny imagery Shulman uses. The end of the reading really surprised me. While the speaker thought Polly wasn't understanding the fallicies he was teaching her, it back fired on him at the end of the reading.
ReplyDeleteI wore my necklace one game and I scored two touchdowns and we won, this necklace must be good luck. This is an example of Post Hoc that really happened to me. -Cullen Boyette
I actually liked this story. Its showed fallacies but it also showed how you can't control people. The main character thought he was so much better than everyone because he was so smart, but in the end it bit him back in the but. Ending was funny/ironic.
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